WWE’s Paul Heyman, both the on-screen mouthpiece for Brock Lesnar the pro wrestler, and confidante of Lesnar the person, on The MMA Hour talked Lesnar, C.M. Punk, the UFC direction, the end of Strikeforce, Ronda Rousey and his own flirtations with the business side of MMA.
For wrestling fans, the most interesting revelation was an insight into C.M. Punk, who quit WWE in January. Heyman and Punk are personal friends besides their television business relationship. Punk, ever since quitting, has gone silent, refusing to discuss WWE or anything to do with his future and recent past as a pro wrestler.
“I think C.M. Punk’s mind set is to never come back, and their (WWE) mind set is they never want him back,” Heyman said.
But Heyman said that if you asked him in 2010, he would swear on his testicles that he would never work for WWE again, and he’s been working there now for a couple of years.
“He’s driven and determined never to go back. He feels that if he ever goes back, it’ll be a sign of failure on his part. His success in life is predicated on the idea he never goes back.”
Still, Heyman has been around pro wrestling long enough to know that never say never. People like Bret Hart and Bruno Sammartino, who one figured would never go back to WWE, have made details with the company after years of animosity, and Heyman and Lesnar, went back.
He teased that Punk could follow names like Lesnar, Dave Bautista and Bobby Lashley in trying out MMA, even though he’s almost 36, and never competed at a high level in a sport like boxing, kickboxing or amateur wrestling. But Punk has trained for years in multiple disciplines.
“Punk has always had the opinion that at its core, when the cage door gets locked it’s two really capable people punching each other in the face until one drops. Sometimes the skill level is overrated, and the ability to just fight comes into play. He’s educated in MMA. He’ a very serious student of the disciplines and he’s become far more entrenched.
“He’s a fighter at heart. One of the things that makes it so interesting is he came into the wrestling world as a fighter who ended up performing, not a performer making a transition into the fighting world.”